Curse

Isileth · Feb 05, 2008, 12:24 AM // 00:24

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Originally Posted by RedNova88

Not anymore there isn't.

Oh well let the people that did it the easy way have their precious words under their name. The title will most likely mean less to them than it does to anyone who actually earned the title and did things the hard/harder way so that the final moment would be that much sweeter.

I know I would personally go for it playing "normally". Just because I dont find it fun to farm or let others do it for me etc.

The point is however there is no way of knowing how another got it.

Also as for "not anymore"

When it started there was at least 1 way to exploit it. So it had no prestige from the very start sadly.

Age · Feb 05, 2008, 12:36 AM // 00:36

I would say it needs adjusting for this tier1 lvl10,tier2 lvl15 and LS lvl20.I was working on my first LS and lost it at 830.000+XP no thanks to henchies in Tyria were it is the hardest.Tyria is needs a revamp bigger XP and more XP from missions and merg pre and post and a small beginner area much like before you enter Sing Jea Monestary.

I am not

about this.

HerrHildebrand · Feb 05, 2008, 04:06 AM // 04:06

/signed

With the current way it is handled, it is just too much of a luck title. Too many times I've fled from a combat only to find out 2-3 minutes later that I'm rubber-banded back into that combat and dead on the ground.

Konig Des Todes · Feb 05, 2008, 07:30 AM // 07:30

/notsigned

For making survivor based on amount of xp between deaths, that would mean every single person could get survivor now, which would get rid of the point of the title, besides it is to easy to farm xp without risking death now *especially with HFFF, FFF, and the dwarven boxing*. If the survivor title is changed, then the only way it could be changed and still be "fair" would by doing 2 things. First, nerf HFFF, dooring FFF, and the dwarven boxing *for HFFF and FFF maybe add a group that spawns within radar distance of the zone, and make that group patrol to the door perhapes. And for dwarven boxing, maybe just make it harder.* Seond, remove death counts and/or make the title amount of xp between deaths. That way, if this gets updated, everyone has an equal chance at getting the title while removing the 3 easiest xp farming methods.

BenjZee · Feb 05, 2008, 10:15 AM // 10:15

would be cool. the 1 time death rest idea sounds dogey though. you could do a similar idea and just start the title track on these characters from how ever many deaths they are on at the moment.
eg. monks on 3000 deaths, can work on surviver title for this once in a life time opperunity. once he hits 3001 deaths he has permenantly failed the title.

or how about as an added bonus. Letting our character reset their deaths at 3 years old. This means that the people that will be three this year will be the oldest hence didnt have a chance at the title.
You could even make this feature permenant so then someone has to either restart their char or wait 3 years and keep their prograssion

Uber Mass · Feb 05, 2008, 11:21 AM // 11:21

/notsigned

you died so you didnt survive

Mister Me · Feb 05, 2008, 11:34 AM // 11:34

I think it's fine as it is^^
I have legendary survivor on my Ranger(Skillcapping till r2, then fff) and my monk(all fff), it's easy enough, just take hench for missions and quests and look for fff teams once you reached Lutgardis(now you just do HFFF)

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With the current way it is handled, it is just too much of a luck title. Too many times I've fled from a combat only to find out 2-3 minutes later that I'm rubber-banded back into that combat and dead on the ground.

Just bring healer hench.

They should keep you alive easy enough...maybe I was lucky with both characters...dunno

English Warrior · Feb 05, 2008, 11:37 AM // 11:37

/notsigned if you rubber band your obviously taking a BIG risk farming survivor that way just do it the way most people do Lutgardis or Kilroy's Dungeon.

pumpkin pie · Feb 05, 2008, 01:55 PM // 13:55

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

I don't really care about the GWAMM, but I do enjoy 'completion'.
I'm getting all 1319 skill in a single character even when is no title for doing that. And I explored a lot before the Carthographer was added. And I got all Bonuses before Protector and... well... you get the drill...

I love completion.

exploring a lot before the cartographer title was added is a mistake !!! when the title was implemented, I already have 90%+ on one of my character, going back to look for those miss spots is a pain in the unmentionable region on this forum, she is now 99.3%, and I've recently discover that its not wall hugging I have to do..... its criss crossing the map and filling up the U map with red dots is the only way to do it..... without any outside help *coughcheattexmodcoughcheat*

oops, what I wanted to say is, if Anet allows *coughcheattexmodcoughcheat* then they better change the survival title to between death.

MithranArkanere · Feb 05, 2008, 02:24 PM // 14:24

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Originally Posted by Leeds

/notsigned if you rubber band your obviously taking a BIG risk farming survivor that way just do it the way most people do Lutgardis or Kilroy's Dungeon.

...Like they currently already do.

Do you ralize that without the high XP quests, like the Canthan quests, it just turns boring, repetitive and takes much more time?

.If you die you didn't survive: Remove it after the first death, then.
.Make another character: I don't care about other characters, I care about the ones I have.
.Re-roll: Guild Wars contemplates NO re-rolling. Even PvP rewards are cutomized for a character and you would lose them if you re-rolled.
.It would be easy to get by farming: It is already easy to get by farming, thanks to Factions, Eye of the North and the Tomes.
.It would allow to have both LDoA and Survivor: Make them exclusive between themselves, then.
.Stop QQ/Whining/Monane/Whatever: Grown up.

The point is that there is an 'easy to get' title that the characters we care about, the only ones we want them to have the title, can't get.

Age · Feb 06, 2008, 11:07 AM // 11:07

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Originally Posted by Lord Chippo
I suggest that the survivor title be changed so the experiance is counted between deaths and not from 0 deaths. This would allow old tryian chars and any other person who doesnt want to remake their char each time they die to go for it.

I would like if you would elaborate on this more as those that did earn LS worked really hard for it.I would have to say it was a bad idea t even bring in this title as the way the game is set up unless you have bulletproof strategy for getting.I gave it my best shot and Tryria is not friendly for this.

Solas · Jul 14, 2008, 04:19 PM // 16:19

With Possible HoM update it may seem like a nice time to bring this back into the spotlight.
This is not really making a title easier (The bulk of the time is spent in the same place)since the vast majority ( i would imagine) get off pre island and get ran to ludgardis.

Besides this is more effective then creating another thread like this and being told to use search.

Narcissia · Jul 15, 2008, 03:29 AM // 03:29

/sign to change the title somehow so older chars can get it. dont really care how, just some way would be nice

Ghostcell · Jul 15, 2008, 03:33 AM // 03:33

/notsigned

defeats the whole purpose of 'Survivor', seeing you didn't survive - you died and then had to try it again.
maybe give old characters (created before titles) a complete roll back (lvl 1, xp gone, skill points gone) so its the same as starting a new character.
just so all these people will stop QQing.
otherwise, get over it. its 1 title, its not going to wreck your life by not having 1 title on your main.
if they changed the title then it wouldn't be fair for all the people who got survivor the hard way (and not just getting to luts and hffing).

**cosyfiep** · Jul 15, 2008, 07:20 AM // 07:20

/notsigned....it would be nice for some of the older characters to get the title however, that would mean a total revamp of the system....which mostlikely wont happen....
would rather them fix some other stuff than this one.

Dr.Jones · Jul 15, 2008, 08:55 AM // 08:55

i think that they changed it to account based once you get rank 3 it would fix a lot of problems. with people who have the old ch also this title kind of got the prestige kicked out from under it yes it still is hard but it is entirely possible to farm it. (dwarven brawling)

Zahr Dalsk · Jul 15, 2008, 09:14 AM // 09:14

/notsigned

Reroll your character or don't take the title. Not unless non-Tyrian characters can get a shot at LDoA.

Lord Hares · Jul 15, 2008, 09:15 AM // 09:15

Ppl who tried to make survivor title and for any reason didn't make it have to make a new char to retry. Can be good for new char but for old char you worked on it you can't do anything

why don't add a /resetdeath command (or something like this) you can use only once a year to let you retry again ?

On GW, survivor title is the only thing you can't retry if you fail...

/signed for a mod

Solas · Jul 15, 2008, 11:45 AM // 11:45

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defeats the whole purpose of 'Survivor', seeing you didn't survive - you died and then had to try it again.
maybe give old characters (created before titles) a complete roll back (lvl 1, xp gone, skill points gone) so its the same as starting a new character.
just so all these people will stop QQing.

Yeah but after they have the title and die there technically not a surviver either, because they died.
Cqan't really ermake a char if you spend 100+ hours on it can you?

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otherwise, get over it. its 1 title, its not going to wreck your life by not having 1 title on your main.

Its 1 title that isn't accessable to all, mainly due to lack of knowledge for new players or players pre title update.

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if they changed the title then it wouldn't be fair for all the people who got survivor the hard way (and not just getting to luts and hffing).

Like the kurzick title?
With the update that brought out the kurzick skills it actually Halved the faction needed to be donated and gave faction to your title by spending it on amber etc.
Kurzick and luxon are long title tracks, and to be halved like that must have annoyed alot of people but you can see that it made the title more realistic

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Originally Posted by Dr. Jones

i think that they changed it to account based once you get rank 3 it would fix a lot of problems. with people who have the old ch also this title kind of got the prestige kicked out from under it yes it still is hard but it is entirely possible to farm it.

That seems like a fair idea, its the same amount of effort required while also making it attainable to any char.

MithranArkanere · Jul 15, 2008, 03:38 PM // 15:38

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

/notsigned

Reroll your character or don't take the title. Not unless non-Tyrian characters can get a shot at LDoA.

This is Guild Wars. Guild Wars is not made for re-roll. Re-roll is blasphemy. GW is about devotion and keeping characters for years, not about deleting them.

LDoA is something to look at too... but that's for another thread.